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[Duluth Diesel]

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-Chuck

[honker]

chuck
hi my name is dave and i live in australia
in the next 2 months i will be switching over to amsoil products for my mahindra 2wd 2.6 crde vehicle
at present i am using in the engine penrite hpr diesel 15w/50 semi sythetic
i already have a by pass oil filter system [frantz]
what amsoil products would be best suited to use in my mahindra and what would be the best dealer to purchase amsoil products here in australia
regards
david hughes

[Duluth Diesel]

PM on the way, Honker.

-Chuck

[topgut]

Hi Dave,

Great to see you found this forum.

You are one of the few lucky guys that actually drives a Mahindra Pikup. So, tell the Fellas here what you like about your truck. They will listen and learn.

Thanks.........J

[DickIsGone]

DD, what does Amsoil cost? I see ads for it everywhere, but they all have the jicky little tagline, "email for wholesale pricing!"

I want to be able to compare it to Mobil, Castrol, Rotella, and any other player in the market.

[topgut]

I use Amsoil products and I have never had an engine failure. This includes 4 stroke engines both gas and diesel. I use Amsoil 2 stroke oil in my ATV's, chainsaws, snowmobiles, weedwackers, etc. I love the 2 stroke oil in my chainsaws; its called 'Sabre', appropriately. Their 100:1 mix is equal to a standard oil 50:1 mix.

I just mix it 32:1 and use it in everything. I have some very old 2 strokes and they love it with low carbon and smoke. No fouled plugs etc. Its great stuff.

In addition, you can send oil samples into Amsoil and verify that its working for you. You will get a report to verify your engine oil is OK to keep using etc. If not they will recommend changing the oil.

Save yourself some bucks on the big diesel rigs. I have friends that swear by Amsoil and they say they save money long term. Do some research and you will save some bucks..............Good Luck.............J

[Duluth Diesel]

Originally Posted by Dick

DD, what does Amsoil cost? I see ads for it everywhere, but they all have the jicky little tagline, "email for wholesale pricing!"

I want to be able to compare it to Mobil, Castrol, Rotella, and any other player in the market.

Well first of all, AMSOIL is a whole grade better oil than Mobil, Castrol, Rotella, and other Group III synthetics. AMSOIL is a true Group IV PAO synthetic. So, when comparing prices, consider that they are an apples to oranges comparison.

AMSOIL has a customer retention program, kinda like Sam's Club or Costco. What I do when you order is set you up with the account ($20 a year) but you can buy at Dealer Cost. That is up to 30% below the AMSOIL.com retail price. You pay what I pay.

For example, 3 gallons of AMSOIL AME 15W40 would retail normally for 93.15. Dealer price is $71.55.

There are many oils out there that call themselves synthetic, but not all are created equal, and that's important to know. You do get what you pay for. Group III synthetic oils only use about 12% synthetic base stocks. The rest is hyrdocracked petroleum base stocks. For major oil companies who have their money in crude oil refining, the word "synthetic" is merely a marketing term. It does not mean 100%, but just that a percentage of synthetic base stock goes into their product.

The oils that are commonly mentioned are Group II and Group III synthetics with the exception of Redline, which is a Group V (more on that later). AMSOIL is a Group IV synthetic (PAO) but also uses Group V Ester technology. It gives you the best of Group IV and Group V synthetics. Mobil 1 is a Group III synthetic, sometimes mixing in some Group IV technology. AMSOIL is a Group IV synthetic and includes Group V technology in some racing products.

In the late 1990s, Castrol started selling an oil made from Group III base oil and called it SynTec Full Synthetic. Mobil sued Castrol, asserting that this oil was not synthetic, but simply a highly refined petroleum oil, and therefore it was false advertising to call it synthetic. In 1999, Mobil lost their lawsuit. It was decided that the word "synthetic" was a marketing term and referred to properties, not to production methods or ingredients. Castrol continues to make SynTec out of Group III base oils, which is just a highly purified mineral oil base stock, not a Group IV PAO base stock.

Shortly after Mobil lost their lawsuit, most oil companies started reformulating their synthetic oils to use Group III base stocks instead of PAOs or diester stocks as their primary component. Most of the "synthetic oil" you can buy today is actually mostly made of this highly-distilled and purified dino-juice called Group III oil. Group III base oils cost about half as much as the synthetics. By using a blend of mostly Group III oils and a smaller amount of "true" synthetics, the oil companies can produce a product that has some of the same properties as the "true" synthetics, and nearly the same cost as the Group III oil. AMSOIL differs from Group III oils. As a Group IV oil, it uses 100% pure synthetic base stocks. This is why you can run it for longer intervals.

Synthetic oils were originally designed for the purpose of having a very pure base oil with excellent properties. By starting from scratch and building up your oil molecules from little pieces, you can pretty much guarantee that every molecule in the oil is just like every other molecule, and therefore the properties are exactly what you designed in, not compromised by impurities. Synthetics were thus originally a reaction to the relatively poor refining processes available from about 1930 to about 1990. The original synthetics were designed for the Army Air Force in WW II. They simply could not make their high- performance turbo-charged radial engines stay alive on the available motor oils of the time.

One process for making synthetic base oils is to start with a chemical called an olefin, and make new molecules by attaching them to each other in long chains, hence "poly." The primary advantage of Poly-Alpha-Olefin "PAO" base oil is that all the molecules in the base oil are pretty much identical, so it's easy to get the base oil to behave exactly as you like. PAOs are called Group IV base oils.

These PAO base oils have an enormous advantage over mineral base oils in low temperature performance and in resistance to oxidation, which is critical in keeping the oil from forming acids.

Another type of base oil is made from refined and processed esters and is called Group V. Esters start life as fatty acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into esters, diesters, and polyesters. Group V base stocks are the most expensive of all to produce. However, the esters are polar molecules and have very significant solvent properties - an ester base oil all by itself will do a very decent job of keeping your engine clean. So, people who are serious about making a superior oil will usually mix some Group V oils into their base stock.

Oils that are strictly Group V ester oils tend to be better suited for high RPM, hot running, air cooled engines. 100% ester based oils are usually more expensive than Group IV oils, and don't have the longevity of PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mixes oils. Group V oils perform very well in the shorter term. They perform very well in race engines and in applications where drain intervals are factory spec or shorter, whereas Group IV oils are better suited for the long haul of extended intervals.

Whatever oil you choose, know what you are buying. Just because the jug says "synthetic" doesn't mean it is made from 100% pure synthetic base stocks.

[DickIsGone]

Thanks for the lesson. It's much appreciated.

[Duluth Diesel]

Anytime man. Thanks!

-Chuck