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Wow, you guys have too much time on your hands.

[DickIsGone]

Hell Peewee,
I'm having fun. These two little girls are getting all knotted up on the inside.
It's cute watching the sixteen year old talk trash and act like she's somebody.

[clubgitmo]

Originally Posted by Dick

Hell Peewee,
I'm having fun. These two little girls are getting all knotted up on the inside.
It's cute watching the sixteen year old talk trash and act like she's somebody.

< Reply Edited for Content - Gitmo >

[DickIsGone]

Last word! Last word! Last word!!!!!!

[clubgitmo]

Originally Posted by Dick

Last word! Last word! Last word!!!!!!

Okay Okay - Ill let ya have it. I'm just like Bill O'Reilly

[mdcheif]

Alright tough guys. I know its tough waiting for something were all anxious about. Yall I really have finals to study for right now, so please no more bickering. Lets just end this right here.

To each their own opinion. Dick get a auto. Club get a manual.

Its time to move on.

[DickIsGone]

"I'm just like Bill O'Reilly"

I knew we could find something that'd make us both smile.

[gandrimp]

I dont wanna keep this going or nothin but I find it really funny that a guy with 36 post is calling a guy with 11 post a newbie.
Arnt we all newbie's ?
Also for the why dont they put auto's in semi's, search for a tranny called ALLISON been in semis for many years.
My duramax allison combo has 15 more hp than a duramax/manual combo due to the clutch not having enough holding force.
My dmax also looses power a split second before it shifts so the auto can live and Im pretty sure ford and dodge do the same.

[PimpSLAYER]

Originally Posted by gandrimp

I dont wanna keep this going or nothin but I find it really funny that a guy with 36 post is calling a guy with 11 post a newbe.
Arnt we all newbe's ?

HA! I think we are all a little newb-like with this whole forum... But I am sure as more information comes out about these trucks and when we can show up at a dealer to test thing, there will be more posting...

[MahindraPlanet]

Hmm… Manual versus Automatic.

To me there are two reasons I prefer a manual: User interface, and reliability/simplicity.

User interface is a personal preference. I’ve been rowing gears since I first learned how to ride dirt bikes and drive our old Farmall Cub. In a truck, I like to mechanically hold a gear if I want to. I’ve been in plenty of automatic trucks that tend to ‘hunt’ gears at various RPM and load/tow conditions. I find it annoying. Even with a hold button, the electronics will still override your decision eventually.

Reliability/simplicity. With modern technology, heavy duty automatics are plenty strong. I spent a decade as an engineer in the heavy truck and commercial bus industries. There is a reason over the road truckers still shift their rigs. On the other side of that, there is a reason city transit buses have automatics (driver fatigue, and trans retarder function for instance). From an engineer’s perspective, the FMEA (failure mode and effect analysis) on a manual versus an automatic is huge. An automatic introduces a significant number of failure modes over a manual due to its complexity and inherent inefficiency. An automatic has a planetary gearset, a set of bands, at least 3 wet clutch packs, hydraulic actuators, a bunch of seals, and a hydraulic pump to run the show. All are complex and relatively delicate, and that’s not even considering the electronic controls. A manual is a dumb box. The major wear items are the clutch and throwout bearing which are external to the box anyway. Seals, bearings, and synchos are in the mix, but are relatively robust.

I liken the automatic versus manual debate to handguns: semi-auto versus revolver. Most semi-autos (like a 1911) are incredibly reliable, but fairly complex (adding failure modes, i.e. possible jams). A revolver is very simple and inherently, near-impossible to jam. But in the end, it comes down to user interface. Even though I prefer a manual trans in my truck, I prefer a 1911 in my hand.